Posted 18 января 2021,, 12:09

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Natalia Zubarevich: “There are wonderful places in Russia where there is simply no covid”

Natalia Zubarevich: “There are wonderful places in Russia where there is simply no covid”

18 января 2021, 12:09
Natalya Zubarevich, Professor of the Department of Economic and Social Geography of the Faculty of Geography of Moscow State University, spoke on the air of the Echo of Moscow radio station about how the pandemic had affected the Russians.
Moscow region

According to her, there are such "wonderful places" in the country, in which there is practically no covid, despite the fact that the so-called "excess mortality" in these regions is quite noticeable.

“This is how the pandemic affected people: if we take the data for January-October (2020) on mortality, we additionally - this is what is called“ excess mortality ”- 151,000 people died in ten months.

If we take the "excess mortality" in Moscow for these ten months, this is 17.5 thousand people, and in St. Petersburg 8 thousand.

What does it mean? it is necessary to look at the pace, how much it has grown, then count thousands.

So: if in the country the increase in this "excess mortality" was 10%, then in Moscow it was almost 18%, and in St. Petersburg it was 16%.

This tells us what hit the largest cities the hardest. The increase in overall mortality was the largest here. I am not saying how much covid there is, it can be counted in different ways.

But my colleagues believe that the death rate in Moscow is more or less logical. Because we have wonderful places where there is no covid, just no.

This is in the regions. And we should talk about these champions regularly.

For example, in Bashkortostan, out of 5, 8 thousand of excess mortality - that is, relative to last year (2019) - 70 people died from covid, as the Bashkir authorities tell us. Nice number, right? With an increase of 14%.

In Chechnya, where the increase in "excess mortality" amounted to 1.9 thousand people - and this is 37% more than in the previous year - 16 people died from covid.

Therefore, our country is different. And it is not only these two regions that we have.

Tatarstan, and the Leningrad region, and the Lipetsk, and Ryazan, and Mari El, and the Samara region, and Chuvashia also "dabbled"...

There is also a very interesting relationship between those designated as "deaths from covid" - a few, dozens of people - and the real number of additional deaths.

This is to the question of how the regional authorities react and form the reporting.

That is, according to these figures, the worst is, first of all, Moscow.

Moscow was hit harder. Transit flows and so on. The covid came here, first of all - this time; second, there is a very high proportion of the elderly.

There are many able-bodied people in the city, few children, but a very high proportion of the elderly. Because the life expectancy of Muscovites - who did not know - 78 years, on average.

It is a rich city where people live for a long time. But then, as in Italy, she began to mow.

And in rural areas, where there are few people and, in general, there is no mobility, a quarter of the population still believes that “this covid” is a highly exaggerated story, that “they say something there”...

...Nobody knows what to do. But I definitely don't want to go to a digital prison.

You can offer anything, anything, but where will you get the Chinese to do all this in the Russian Federation?

And with such a cunning answer, I hope to get away from a direct frontal explanation (about the choice between a full lockdown or "waves" - noted by Novye Izvestia).

Each country does what it can and what people let it do, did you notice?

Here we cannot do it so easily.

We will not, of course, have a partisan struggle, but we will - what is it called? - sluggish resistance on all fronts.

Because otherwise it is not Russia. You have to understand your country a little”.

You can listen to the full interview with Natalia Zubarevich here.